My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 10 Sep 2009, 22:45

Well, things have not been moving as quickly as I'd like. I want to have a working prototype by Oct 7, so I can take one to the conference at NYLS. But time and money have proven to be big constraints.

At the moment, I have a bunch of ideas that I need to iterate through rapidly. I know some of these ideas are just not going to shake out in my Maya model of the portable scanner, and I need to make them out of real stuff to figure out how to place things and see how they work.

Real stuff is a problem. 5mm baltic birch plywood is cheap, but not so cheap that you can waste it. And you can only cut it at 15% speed, which means that even this little box can take over 20 minutes to cut. If you make a mistake, that's another 20 minutes just to keep moving, and you'll probably chuck the part anyhow.

But with less-dense materials, much higher speeds are possible. So much of my book scanner time this week was spent looking for materials with identical thickness, but with much better cutting properties. One of the contributors over at Sawmill Creek Engraver's Forum pointed me to foam-core. I tried it tonight.

It turns out Wal*Mart was the cheapest source of foam-core that I could find. I hate Wal*Mart but I have to stretch my money as far as possible. I bought six sheets of 20"x30" foam core, which is just slightly thinner than my baltic birch, for $3 a sheet.

When I got back to my workshop, I remembered that I had another kind of foam-core somewhere. I think it is the more sturdy material mentioned in the thread above. It has a thicker, stiffer "paper" covering around the styrene center.

I cut my test box from both materials. On the left is the baltic birch ply. In the middle is the stiffer mystery foam core. On the right is the Wal*Core. Laser settings: 100% speed, 90% power, 1khz. The styrene core of this material is kind of interesting. You can see that the heat from the laser causes it to go concave. It also produces a lot of noxious-looking smoke which gives the impression that it's much heavier than air, because of the way it lingers in the laser.
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Conclusions: Mystery-core is great, but probably more expensive than ply. Wal*Core is junk, but probably good enough to try out some ideas. Tomorrow night is reserved for trying a proto of my folding lighting arms.

Behold, the new DIY Book Scanner HQ. Basically, it's a workbench I made from 2x12's in a moldy basement. The great thing about this setup is that I will be able to put the laser down here in the winter. It would definitely not survive the harsh winter in my workshop. The first cold snap would mean the end of any laser work. I've lived in this flat, featureless, artless state most of my life, and winters here are absolutely brutal. But for me, the brutality is not the extreme cold or the mountains of snow, it's the total end of workshop activities. I may have left my preferred dwelling, but being closer to my machines and projects should keep me going through another Fargo freeze.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 11 Sep 2009, 12:56

I had a moment of clarity and realized that I should borrow Aaron's scanner to test out some of my new engineering ideas. Just sent him an email, hope he goes for it.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 12 Sep 2009, 00:38

Sweet. I get to pick it up from Aaron's place tomorrow morning.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 12 Sep 2009, 02:20

I stopped by Harbor Freight Tools this afternoon and saw that they had the toolbox liner I prefer back in stock. FINALLY. Here's the part number and manufacturer.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 12 Sep 2009, 02:35

Made a lot of progress tonight.

I basically have to start physically putting stuff together to make any further progress. So here's what that looks like.

First, a new baseplate design. Took me way too long to draw, but worked neatly.
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One thing you learn as a 3D modeler is not to make more than you have to. I left out side braces to speed up prototyping.
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Hurry and bad things happen. If the laser is not in focus, it sets shit on fire.
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Here it is with the folding VST on it.
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Folding VST+folding platen.
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Folded.
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Now I'm finally revealing my direction with this portable design. I want two arms at opposite corners of the scanner, each folding out and holding the camera and LED lighting. I'm still not confident that this is going to work. Hopefully I will know the answer tomorrow.
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Folded.
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More handholding.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby fbonomi » 12 Sep 2009, 09:53

oohh that looks beautiful.

from the photos I can't really understand what sort of material you are using..

Are the arms strong enough?
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 12 Sep 2009, 09:59

Thanks!

The material is "foamcore" sometimes called "foamboard". It's often used to make displays and posters and stuff. I'm just using it because I needed something cheaper and faster-cutting than plywood. For example, I can make the baseplate in 2 minutes, 26 seconds with this material. If I make a mistake (which I did) I haven't wasted a lot of time. None of this stuff is really cheap though. Each sheet of this stuff cost about $3, and this model consumed 6 sheets. Oh well. No such thing as a free lunch.

These parts are just models. I need to figure out some stuff that I can only figure out by trying, so 3D modeling doesn't really work. That's why I'm doing this. When I'm done mocking up the scanner and everything looks right, I'll go make corrections and cut it from plywood. Plywood will definitely be strong enough.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby daniel_reetz » 12 Sep 2009, 23:15

Unfortunately, I spent most of today out shopping for materials. I did find some near-ideal hinges and some 3mm plywood in the process. The 3mm plywood cuts like a dream and may be useful for non-structural parts. This would be the new hingallelogram, IF i had gotten one more hinge. So tomorrow, I will be driving across town, again, to pick up another hinge identical to these. I'll probably buy extra just to be on the safe side.

Rather than stick the hinges together directly or use strap hinges, I opted for using a lasered bit of plywood to join the hinges. This worked remarkably well. The best side effect is that the slight misalignment on each one, coupled with the incredible tension I put on the screws, seems to have taken up the little bit of slop that was in the hinges. They move very smoothly and accurately and hold their position pretty well.

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The other thing that I found today are "Universal latch magnets". They are very much like the little magnet latches on glass entertainment center doors and cupboard doors. These are just 5X larger, and so more powerful. I will be using these on several parts of the scanner.

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Tomorrow I hope to make a test column, and I hope to mount the platen on it.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby StevePoling » 13 Sep 2009, 16:11

daniel_reetz wrote:... I need to figure out some stuff that I can only figure out by trying, so 3D modeling doesn't really work. That's why I'm doing this. When I'm done mocking up the scanner and everything looks right, I'll go make corrections and cut it from plywood. Plywood will definitely be strong enough.


Years back I was working for a CAD software company and we had a Brit from Jaguar drop by to visit. He expressed that he was a big adherent of CAD as in "Cardboard Aided Design." To illustrate his point he described an engine bonnet hinge that had to allow the lid fold but also lift itself out of the way. He worked out his thoughts with a few pieces of cardboard and brass paper clasps. Cardboard-Aided Design should be a key skill in any maker's repertoire.
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Re: My 3rd Generation Scanner Build Thread

Postby you1 » 15 Sep 2009, 05:21

Daniel, than you for taking the time to post your work...
We're seeing lots of cool designs (and hard work).

Cardboard-Aided Design should be a key skill in any maker's repertoire

I didn't realize that pros rely on "card board" (or other such materials) instead of 3D modeling to iron out their thoughts.
Good to know for tinkering...
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